Michael Wolff on 'Boring' Pence, Wife Karen's Nickname

Fire and Fury author Michael Wolff had some amusing tidbits to share about the VP during an appearance at the Cannes Lions advertising festival Monday, Quartz reports. While President Trump sells books—Fire and Fury, which details his first nine months as POTUS, is still a bestseller after being released in January—Mike Pence, not so much. "When Mike Pence becomes the president—which I believe that he will become—the media business goes into a deep depression," Wolff predicted. "Mike Pence is literally the most boring man on earth." Wolff predicts Pence will get a job promotion due to Trump being booted from office, the New York Post reports.

Wolff went on to say that Pence is "faceless" even at work: "Even in the White House they only talk about Pence’s wife. Mother, she is called." Jeff Goodby, the ad agency cofounder onstage with Wolff, asked whether Pence really calls his wife "Mother." Wolff's response: "Everyone in the White House calls her Mother." Rolling Stone first reported back in 2017 that Pence refers to wife Karen as "Mother." Politifact has since spoken to a number of people who say they've witnessed him calling her that, but since the site couldn't find "video or other documentary evidence," it has not rated the claim as true. (More Michael Wolff stories.)